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In a world that’s becoming more complex and uncertain, learning how to channel pressure in a healthy way to turn it into a force for good is vital. How we deal with pressure in our personal and professional lives will impact the outcome of anything we do. In this podcast, Sara Milne Rowe, author of The SHED Method and founder of Coaching Impact, explores how we experience pressure both in our personal and professional lives. Leaders from all walks of life join her to discuss what pressure means to them, how they deal with it, what they do because of it and how they lead others through it.’
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Friday Oct 18, 2024
#53 - Rupal Patel - Be Willing To Be Surprised?
Friday Oct 18, 2024
Friday Oct 18, 2024
Today I’m speaking with Rupal Patel, a woman who has had an unconventional career, as suggested by the title of her best-selling book, From CIA to CEO.
As a CIA analyst and field agent, she advised four-star generals, earned War Zone Service Medals, and was recognised by the CIA Director for “superior support to the President.” She then transitioned into the business world.
Rupal’s trailblazing business work has been featured in USA Today and Business Insider, and in 2023, she was named one of the “Most Influential Women of the Year.”
She is committed to developing the next generation of leaders and change-makers through her pro bono work for Virgin Startup, and through her roles as Entrepreneur in Residence at London Business School and Alumni in Residence at the University of Chicago.
In our conversation, Rupal shares…
- What can be gained from riddles over dinner,
- The creative benefits of leaving things to the last minute,
- And what she discovered by ‘leaning into the laziness.’

Thursday Sep 26, 2024
#52 - Alina Addison - What if it’s good?
Thursday Sep 26, 2024
Thursday Sep 26, 2024
Today I’m talking to Alina Addison, ex-accountant, ex-investment banker, executive coach, and now author.
Alina left Romania as a young adult. Soon afterwards, she went into accountancy with PwC before joining Rothschild & Co. There, she became the first woman to be promoted to Managing Director and Head of Trading—all while working four days a week.
In her book, The Audacity Spectrum, Alina combines personal experience with extensive research to share her mission. She wants to ignite audacious leadership in people through a bold mix of courage, care, and nonconformity.
In our conversation, Alina shares…
- What she learnt from being that boarding school toddler,
- Why her life changed thanks to a friend’s audacious question, and
- How she ended up completing two degrees in two countries—at the same time!

Thursday Sep 12, 2024
#51 - Simon Scott - Work Out Whether the Pressure is Lethal or Just… Horrible!
Thursday Sep 12, 2024
Thursday Sep 12, 2024
Welcome to season 2 of Better Under Pressure!
I’m very excited to be kicking it off today in the company of none other than my business partner, Simon Scott.
Formerly a Royal Marine Commando Officer and diver, who was awarded the Sword of Honour, Simon found that his time in the Marines satisfied both his desire for challenge and his fascination with explorers like Ernest Shackleton. After 11 years, he left and has since been coaching leaders in various industries, and increasingly in sport. He has supported people like Alex Danson, who captained GB Hockey to Olympic gold, worked with Dave Brailsford at INEOS Cycling, and is currently on the training ground with Steve Borthwick and his coaches at England Rugby.
He is also an active trustee of the Adaptive Grand Slam charity, which trains and enables disabled adventurers in extreme expeditions.
In our conversation, Simon shares what he learned when given a can of beans without an opener, how his father, a rowing coach, helped him become a runner, and what he believes makes up an explorer’s mindset.

Thursday May 30, 2024
#50 - Hugh Dennis - Don’t Let What You Do Define You
Thursday May 30, 2024
Thursday May 30, 2024
Today I’m talking to award-winning actor, comedian, and writer, Hugh Dennis. Best known for BBC1’s critically acclaimed sitcom OUTNUMBERED, he has also played an emotionally tortured Bank Manager in the BAFTA-winning show FLEABAG, Toby in the sitcom, NOT GOING OUT, and was an ever-present panellist on BBC 2’s long-running weekly satirical show MOCK THE WEEK.
Hugh has also been a regular for over 25 years on BBC Radio 4, both writing and presenting their Friday night comedy THE NOW SHOW.
In our conversation, Hugh (whose real name is Pete, by the way) shares…
- Why he thinks allowing a bit of self doubt is a good thing.
- How his job at Unilever helped keep him grounded
- And what having a bishop for a father taught him about performance.

Friday May 17, 2024
#49 - Genevieve Shore - The Power of a Team
Friday May 17, 2024
Friday May 17, 2024
Today I’m talking to Genevieve Shore, a serial non-executive Director who has held Board level positions within organisations across several industries, territories and cultures. Her credit roll of organisations includes Santander, Arup, Moneysupermarket, Lego Education, STV and the RFU.
With her sporting background - having played international Rugby for England and winning the World Cup in 1994 - it’s no surprise that Genevieve is currently Chair of the Women’s Premier 15 Ltd. At the same time, she also chairs the North Highland Initiative - a non-profit organisation established because of King Charles III's commitment to support the people and businesses of the North Highlands.
In our conversation, Genevieve shares
- What she means by positive pressure
- Her experience of toxic workplace bullies
- And how teamwork in the changing room trained her for the boardroom.

Friday May 03, 2024
#48 - Calum Clark - Who You Are Gets Exposed Under Pressure
Friday May 03, 2024
Friday May 03, 2024
Today I’m talking to Calum Clark, ex-international Rugby Union player turned high-performance psychologist.
Having started on the rugby trail aged just 15, Calum turned professional three years later and spent fourteen years playing at the highest level He turned out for three different Premiership clubs as well as England. In that time he experienced the highs of winning 3 Premiership titles and 2 European Cups and the lows of career-threatening injuries, disciplinary setbacks, and various off-field issues. Realising there was a lack of professional support, guidance and expertise to help navigate such things, he completed the first of two Psychology MScs alongside the final years of his playing career. He then became Head of Player Development and Wellbeing at Saracens, before going on to become their Head of Psychological Performance, with a number of his clients, including Ben Earl, going on to excel at the 2023 Rugby World Cup in France.
In our conversation, Calum shares…
- The importance of drilling - as an individual and as a team.
- How we all need a north star…
- And which pressure was worse - playing for England or finishing his Psychology thesis.